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Post by JohnFester on July 4th 2015, 1:18 pm

Did Z work alone, did he have a partner or was there a Team Zodiac? I don't think he worked alone but at the same time I don't really think it was more that 2 or 3 people involved. I would bet it was one man doing the killing and one man writing the letters.
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Post by ophion1031 on July 13th 2015, 2:18 am

I think there could have been up to 7 or 8 people involved. If you want my honest opinion, I think that one person wrote all of the letters (and I believe that Fred Manalli was this man) and at least one man was responsible for the murders, although I think that the man who murdered Paul Stine was not the same man that committed the other confirmed murders. Maybe the "partner" who wrote the letters did the Stine shooting himself. This murder was so much different than the previous ones.

Did Zodiac have protection of some sort? This interests me a great deal, because I think that he/they did. What kind of protection and from who is something that completely stumps me, though.
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Post by The Virus on July 26th 2015, 8:45 pm

if i had to bet a million dollars i would bet that it was one man acting alone but i sure do like reading all the different theories about z having a partner or some sort of team working together
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Post by ophion1031 on August 11th 2015, 8:29 pm

The Virus wrote:if i had to bet a million dollars i would bet that it was one man acting alone but i sure do like reading all the different theories about z having a partner or some sort of team working together

I think, and this is just my personal opinion, that after reviewing all of the information on the case, there is less of a chance of one man acting alone as opposed to Zodiac having a "partner" or there being a group involved. It makes sense. It would be smart to have someone other than the murderer be the one that writes the letters because if the killer(s) is/are caught, their handwriting won't be a match. The bloody partial print on Stine's cab makes no sense either. Stine's killer left a pair of gloves in the cab. Why? The only logical explanation is that he somehow left a fake print to throw off LE. The codes/ciphers were probably also provided by the "partner" or someone in the "Zodiac group" to throw off LE. The person/people who actually committed the murders probably had no time spent in the military and no training in coding. Again, this is just all opinion.
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Re: Team Zodiac

Post by Don Pseuym on August 25th 2015, 7:36 pm

hell yes

2  definately or now 3  very possible . look at the Napa and SF composites, the napa man is drawn with blue eye  irises  the stine one dark irises  the artist I had do the CJB tablet per my instruction says yes that was  how you draw blue eyes , the hairline is very different , shape of the face .
but no one wants to admitt there could even be two guys at other sites


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Post by ophion1031 on August 25th 2015, 8:47 pm

I think 2 at the very least. One man doing the killing and one writing the letters. But I think there were 2-3 others involved. Behind-the-scenes guys. At least one of them were in some sort of position that gave them power/authority. Cop, lawyer, politician... something along those lines.
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Post by The Virus on August 26th 2015, 12:48 am

what makes you think that ophion? a killer and a letter writer i can see but how did you come up with all these extra people?
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Post by ophion1031 on April 26th 2016, 9:49 pm

The Virus wrote:what makes you think that ophion? a killer and a letter writer i can see but how did you come up with all these extra people?

Just throwing out some ideas, really. But IF Manalli was the partner/letter writer, then that means the person who placed the personal ad AND the "Imperial Wizard" were probably involved in some way. Or they at least knew what was going on.
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Post by JohnFester on May 14th 2016, 10:10 pm

I can see Manalli as the partner or maybe even see Kaczynski involved due to his knowledge of bombs, coding, ciphers etc. Other than that I don't see any other suspects being much of a 'team' type. Maybe Marshall I guess.
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Post by ophion1031 on May 15th 2016, 10:12 pm

JohnFester wrote:I can see Manalli as the partner or maybe even see Kaczynski involved due to his knowledge of bombs, coding, ciphers etc. Other than that I don't see any other suspects being much of a 'team' type. Maybe Marshall I guess.

Those are the three I agree on; Manalli, Marshall and Ted K. Maybe even Kane or Allen.
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Post by Sick E. Von Brutal on June 5th 2016, 8:20 pm

count me on board for being more than one person behind these murders. I recently saw some documents that said the FBI had done an extensive investigation on Kaczynski and ruled him out as a Z suspect. but I could see some others being a 'team.'
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Post by ophion1031 on September 4th 2016, 8:00 pm

Eric X wrote:count me on board for being more than one person behind these murders. I recently saw some documents that said the FBI had done an extensive investigation on Kaczynski and ruled him out as a Z suspect. but I could see some others being a 'team.'

Kaczynski could have wrote the Z letters or maybe provided the codes/ciphers and/or bomb diagrams. That would fit, but I don't think he fits as Z himself whatsoever.
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Post by Don Pseuym on September 4th 2016, 8:25 pm

three for me -thats what he was trying to say with the Mikato "Three little maids are we "

anyone really familiar with that play ?
I've seen scenes with asian horses in it 3 horses

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Post by ophion1031 on September 6th 2016, 8:37 pm

Don Pseuym wrote:three for me  -thats what he was trying to say with the Mikato  "Three little maids are we "

anyone really familiar with that play ?
I've seen scenes with asian horses in it  3 horses

I have had trouble viewing and posting tha last 3-4 days  
it turns my PC into a bot auto clicking various shopping sites on the taskbar ...only here ,

I am not familiar with that play at all, but maybe I should finally do some studying on it. I haven't been on much lately but haven't had any problems. I need to check into making the site ad free and see how to go about doing that.
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