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Post by Don Pseuym on February 3rd 2016, 9:45 am

I saw this, maybe Z cipher anyone know about it ? I googled 80 celeb cipher images and it comes up
It has a symbol cipher at the bottom

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Post by ophion1031 on February 7th 2016, 8:07 pm

Haven't heard of it. Got a link?
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Post by Galaxie500 on February 7th 2016, 8:38 pm

Don Pseuym wrote:I saw this, maybe Z cipher anyone know about it ? I googled 80 celeb cipher images and it comes up
It has a symbol cipher at the bottom

http://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/the-albany-letter



Is this the one you're talking about?
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Post by ophion1031 on February 8th 2016, 8:10 pm

Seen that before, but I'm not sure if that is the one he is referring to or not. Probably is. That cipher is very Minuteman-like.
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Post by ophion1031 on February 8th 2016, 8:15 pm

Seen that before, but I'm not sure if that is the one he is referring to or not. Probably is. That cipher is very Minuteman-like.
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Post by Don Pseuym on February 9th 2016, 8:00 am

Yes thats it ,but its way different than the other codes I doubt it is Z thanks for posting a large pic so I could clearly see the symbols

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Post by ophion1031 on February 9th 2016, 9:02 pm

Don Pseuym wrote:Yes thats it ,but its way different than the other codes  I doubt it is Z  thanks for posting a large pic so I could clearly see the symbols

Another reason why I think it was a "team effort."
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Post by sandy betts on April 2nd 2016, 10:11 pm

Was that about the town of Albany Ca. or NY ? What yr was that written and who was it sent to?

Sounds to me like the victim was getting off work at 5pm.

The code was very different than Zodiac's other codes. But the odd spacing is very much like Zodiac's. As well as his left margin being pretty straight. Many of the block letters are like Zodiac's. I wouldn't discount it.

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Post by ophion1031 on April 4th 2016, 3:38 am

sandy betts wrote:Was that about the town of Albany Ca. or NY ? What yr was that written and who was it sent to?

Sounds to me like the victim was getting off work at 5pm.

The code was  very different than Zodiac's other codes. But the odd spacing is very much like Zodiac's. As well as his left margin being pretty straight. Many of the block letters are like Zodiac's. I wouldn't discount it.

It was sent to the Albany (NY) Times Union newspaper postmarked August 1, 1973. I agree that it has Zodiac-like qualities even though they are different symbols being used. I wonder if the person actually did commit the murder as threatened. It's doubtful or we probably would know about it. "When the shifts change" meaning he is going to grab the victim as she gets off work? Did he work with her?
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Post by sandy betts on April 4th 2016, 8:24 am

He could have worked with her, but then if he was also a stalker like I think he is, he could have seen her someplace else and had the urge to kill her. I think that part of his fantasy was to follow his victims and get to know their every move , then move in for the kill. Some I think he gave warnings to , because he liked to install fear first. That made him feel more powerful is what I think.

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Post by Don Pseuym on April 7th 2016, 10:34 am

Hi Sandy , could be a real Z cipher but the printing looks much better than the other letters and the numbers are a puzzle ,IMO is someone wanting a bit of fame or fun grabing Z's name

Did you see my Summer of Love post about the big concert on 10/12/69 in Golden Gate park , less than a mile from Wash.& Cherry , pretty sure it had to be going on at the time of Stines killing too
did you go to any concerts there then ?

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Post by sandy betts on April 7th 2016, 11:28 pm

Don, I did see your summer of love post and I liked seeing it. I did miss the date being Oct 12th 69, interesting. I never went to any out door concerts in SF back then. I went mostly to clubs and danced or listened to jazz. I went to a lot of after hours clubs there, after I would get off work in Vallejo at 2 am. In the 70's I was dating a Hollywood lighting director and was on the scene in SF, across the street watching Clint say something like: Go ahead punk make my day.
Looking back I wonder if Zodiac was there watching? That movie was about him. It showed some of his actual letters.

The numbers used in the cypher I think are replacing a letter, like the number 5 is the letter E, 7 is G. A copy cat would have done it more like the known Z cyphers. But Zodiac would do it differently, to play mind games, which he thrived on. That of course is only what I think.

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Post by ophion1031 on April 30th 2016, 10:32 pm

Somebody copied this letter/cipher word for word on a sidewalk in Florida a week or two ago. How strange is that?
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Post by ophion1031 on April 30th 2016, 10:34 pm

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Post by JohnFester on May 5th 2016, 3:12 am

ophion1031 wrote:Somebody copied this letter/cipher word for word on a sidewalk in Florida a week or two ago. How strange is that?

Has to be a hoax but it's weird this happens right after the fake story about Zodiac being caught. And the whole Ted Cruz thing. 2016 had been a weird one for Zodiac but that could be a good thing. Draw him out of hiding.
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Post by sandy betts on May 6th 2016, 1:17 am

It was a school project and was taken seriously , until the teacher saw it on the internet and let LE know that her students did it as a school project.
Or at least that is how I understood it to be.

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Post by Huey Walker on May 7th 2016, 8:24 pm

What the...? Why the...? Who the...?

Strange!
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Post by sandy betts on May 7th 2016, 9:40 pm

LOL , yep.

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