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Post by Don Pseuym on April 9th 2016, 10:42 am

Could there be a connection to the band The Greatful Dead  to the zodiac killer story?
I find they played concerts or such on all the confirmed killing days  plus CJB murder date
Found that they played a halloween themed  dance on 10/30/66 in San Jose called the Dance of the Dead. ( it's not listed as a concert because likely played 30-45 min and for a dance crowd )
On Sept. 27  69 they played a concert with Country Joe and the fish  band
and on  12/20 /68 played with the the same band , country Joe and the fish . they are famous for the song "What are we fightin for"  anti war song
they played in Chicago on july 4 & 5 1969 and the summer of Love concert 10/11 or 12 /69 just down the road when Paul Stine was being murdered.
saw they played again on 3/22/70  with joe & the fish the date of  kathleen J encounter  
Jerry Garcia in the recent book chronicling the Greatful Dead  once dedicated a concert to the Zodiac Killer back then  , was there a contact to the band we do not know of ? It is not like the Greatful Dead were going to call the cops to report that or anything really
Maybe z had a country Joe &the fish obcession

I see they also played a concert in Paradise Valley British Columbia  park  

did zodiac use the word sgueamish in a letter ? thought I remembered he did


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Post by Rocketman on April 9th 2016, 10:49 am

Didn't a band member live at Washington and Cherry and have initials of RH?
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Post by Don Pseuym on April 9th 2016, 1:58 pm

I think others talked of the R H ,but I saw the front of the home ,pretty run down so couldnt be that close to Presideo Heights
I would like to read that new book about GD times back then
Its like $40 and shipping

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Post by JohnFester on April 10th 2016, 10:23 pm

Robert Hunter. I think he lived at Washington & Maple but not until 1970.
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Post by Don Pseuym on April 11th 2016, 11:46 am

that house on the side of the street stine was found at wash. & Cherry is the wool magnate mansion, listed at 25 million in 2011 4 sale built in 1904 ? if R H lived there bet he did not live in that home ,but there are apartments for servants too

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Post by Dunderhead99 on April 18th 2016, 10:19 pm

Wasn't Hunter checked out by LE and cleared or am I mistaken?
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Post by Dunderhead99 on April 18th 2016, 10:21 pm

I would like to know more about Jerry Garcia's infatuation with Zodiac if anyone knows more.
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Post by Don Pseuym on April 21st 2016, 7:55 pm

If you google image TGD I see a pic of them back in the 60s in the front of a home the address on a post 710 N

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Post by sandy betts on April 22nd 2016, 12:53 am

JohnFester wrote:Robert Hunter. I think he lived at Washington & Maple but not until 1970.

Robert Hunter lived on Lyon st with his wife Silvia at that time.

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Post by JohnFester on April 23rd 2016, 9:41 pm

sandy betts wrote:
JohnFester wrote:Robert Hunter. I think he lived at Washington & Maple but not until 1970.

Robert Hunter lived on Lyon st with his wife Silvia at that time.

Thanks, that is what I thought too. He did look a little like Stine sketch in 1969 though but still not Zodiac.
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Post by Don Pseuym on April 24th 2016, 7:28 am

Dunderhead99 wrote:I would like to know more about Jerry Garcia's infatuation with Zodiac if anyone knows more.

This new book about TGD ,I dont remember the title is on a site you can preview it , I read through half but did not see any Z info ,but thats the teaser trailor in the promo I
saw
The reason I asked about Z using the word squeamish ...it is the name of  closest town to that Paradice valley park that GD played

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Post by ophion1031 on April 24th 2016, 11:38 pm

JohnFester wrote:
sandy betts wrote:
JohnFester wrote:Robert Hunter. I think he lived at Washington & Maple but not until 1970.

Robert Hunter lived on Lyon st with his wife Silvia at that time.

Thanks, that is what I thought too. He did look a little like Stine sketch in 1969 though but still not Zodiac.

He kinda had the widow's peak going on.
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Post by ophion1031 on April 24th 2016, 11:40 pm

Don Pseuym wrote:
Dunderhead99 wrote:I would like to know more about Jerry Garcia's infatuation with Zodiac if anyone knows more.

This new book about TGD ,I dont remember the title is on a site you can preview it , I read through half but did not see any Z info ,but thats the teaser trailor in the promo I
saw
The reason I asked about Z using the word squeamish ...it is the name of  closest town to that Paradice valley park that GD played

There has to be some info out there somewhere about Garcia's obsession with Zodiac. It could just be that he was a weirdo who was a "fan" of a serial killer. Or... he had some knowledge of what was going on with the whole thing.
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Post by Don Pseuym on April 25th 2016, 6:01 am

The book is titled SO MANY ROADS same as a albums of their 60s thru 80s recordings   I see it is cheaper now $30
I posted a link at zks that had a article
On the book
The article is at pop matters web site google the book & pop matters

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Post by ophion1031 on April 25th 2016, 9:57 pm

Cool, I'm gonna have to check that out.
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Post by Don Pseuym on April 26th 2016, 8:24 am

http://www.popmatters.com/review/194959-so-many-roads-the-life-and-times-of-the-grateful-dead-by-david-brown/

this new style looks kewl .... star wars ?....but is not functioning right on my android it looses sections when enlarging

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Post by ophion1031 on April 26th 2016, 9:39 pm

Thanks, Don. The logo is Star Wars. The rest I guess is just an outer space theme. Still got some bugs to work out.

Thanks for the link. Always fun to learn about older bands that were around before I was born. Pretty interesting stuff.
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Post by Don Pseuym on April 27th 2016, 9:33 am

Get This I was looking for the date that The Grateful Dead played that Paradice Valley BC park it was  Aug. 8 /69 . near Sqaumish BC
 but having to look thru all the dates back then I saw they played                San Francisco State College on Oct. 1,2 /66  actually  fri thru sun.
that was where Cheri went to see her boyfriend  @ that college weeks before her death ( was she there then?)
also they played Golden Gate Park Oct. 15 /66 with Country Joe & fish

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Post by Don Pseuym on April 28th 2016, 9:39 am

ophion1031 wrote:
Don Pseuym wrote:
Dunderhead99 wrote:I would like to know more about Jerry Garcia's infatuation with Zodiac if anyone knows more.

This new book about TGD ,I dont remember the title is on a site you can preview it , I read through half but did not see any Z info ,but thats the teaser trailor in the promo I
saw
The reason I asked about Z using the word squeamish ...it is the name of  closest town to that Paradice valley park that GD played

There has to be some info out there somewhere about Garcia's obsession with Zodiac. It could just be that he was a weirdo who was a "fan" of a serial killer. Or... he had some knowledge of what was going on with the whole thing.

The book tells where they lived back then ,so it must have been common knowledge for residents too ...Z could have mailed a letter or delivered it himself to the home addressed to Garcia ... maybe saying he was at their concerts
I say Z was tied to practicing witchcraft / satanism of sorts ,TGD's 1st big album was titled Witchcraft

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Post by sandy betts on April 29th 2016, 11:07 pm

I do believe that you are right and Zodiac was into Satanism. I ran into a person by the name of Kathleen Johns who said that the man I have the picture of went to her church. I asked about her church and it was the Church of Satan in SF. I couldn't get away fast enough LOL.

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Post by Don Pseuym on April 30th 2016, 7:13 pm

according to the article they TGD had 2 homes in the haight district but got tired of the tourists and moved to another home in SF in a industrial area with only a few homes around them then later to a 34 acre ranch

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Post by sandy betts on April 30th 2016, 7:30 pm

Garcia would be upset if he knew that Zodiac was a fan of the Rolling Stone's! That is if the Zodiac is for sure my suspect with all the hair. He was all dressed up in a powder blue suit having a "cherry" filled donut and a "maple" filled bar at my favorite donut shop. He told my friend that he was on his way to Oakland to see the Rolling Stones.

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Post by ophion1031 on April 30th 2016, 9:28 pm

sandy betts wrote:I do believe that you are right and Zodiac was into Satanism. I ran into a person by the name of Kathleen Johns who said that the man I have the picture of went to her church. I asked about her church and it was the Church of Satan in SF. I couldn't get away fast enough LOL.

Her real name was Kathleen Johns???
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Post by ophion1031 on April 30th 2016, 9:32 pm

sandy betts wrote:Garcia would be upset if he knew that Zodiac was a fan of the Rolling Stone's! That is if the Zodiac is for sure my suspect with all the hair. He was all dressed up in a powder blue suit having a "cherry" filled donut and a "maple" filled bar at my favorite donut shop. He told my friend that he was on his way to Oakland to see the Rolling Stones.

I'd bet he was a Dead fan as well. It seemed like a good amount of Stones fans were into the Dead as well.
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Post by Don Pseuym on May 2nd 2016, 9:20 am

The Dead were kind of the opening act for many a great band Hindricks ,Doors ,Jefferson airplane ,the Who ,birds etc. The prefered to play in the afternoon which the other bands wanted to be closer to the end of the show .

I see they played the berryessa bowl in 66 to 68 by one article but others ommit that fact.
Z may have worked security for them and could have seen a hot Cheri that weekend she was visiting her boyfriend and asked to see her ID so he could stalk her

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