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Post by Galaxie500 on December 18th 2016, 2:25 pm

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"Sunday, April 27th, 1974 10:36pm: Red Rock Canyon, Las Vegas, NV.  Dana Lull and Boyfriend Roy Norman Tophigh are sat out on a local lovers lane just West of Charleston Blvd. A second vehicle pulls in behind theirs and illuminates the young couple who are now almost blinded by the sudden bright and overpowering beams of light aimed directly on them, and hear the door of this second vehicle open. A man appeared and had a gun pointed at them. Roy didn’t wait to see what the armed man wanted, fleeing instantly from the Vehicle and hiding in a ditch at the roadside where He watched helplessly as the armed man forced Dana from Her vehicle and into His before driving away. Roy got a good look at the abductors vehicle and quickly dashed to get help. Dana’s car was still in position when police arrived but there was no sign of Dana confirming to authorities that Roy had observed her being abducted.  This was Roy’s description of the suspects vehicle:  White Sports Car. Convertible. Black cloth top. Wire Spoke Wheels. Chrome luggage rack on trunk. Missing grill and Old California Licence Plate. At that time, Lawrence Kane drove a White 1966 MG Sport Car. Convertible. Black Cloth Top. Wire Spoked Wheels. Chrome Luggage rack on the trunk with Missing Grill and had Old California Plates (TDY274)"

"Dana Lull’s body was discovered in a mine shaft on Mountain Springs Road in San Bernardino County, CA. Kane, at the time of this incident, lived on Spring Mountain Road in Las Vegas."

From http://www.zodiackiller.com/KH8.html:

"Incredibly [...] the suspect was stopped by a policeman one hour after the abduction, porting the young woman to her death. A Nye County, Nevada Sheriff's Deputy, Tom Hannah, had observed the sportscar driving erratically on a lonely stretch of desert road at 11:40 P.M. Hannah had pursued and stopped the vehicle, and was met by the exceedingly courteous suspect, still wearing his black gloves, who proferred a temporary California's driver's license. The suspect explained he had driven down from San Francisco and was very tired. During his exchange with the suspect Hannah noted the presence of a young sandy haired woman slumped in the front seat of the sportscar, and whom Hannah assumed was asleep. The woman remained motionless during the entire encounter. Hannah observed a small bumper sticker on the back rear fender of the car which said, "Save The Puppy Fish." He let the suspect go with just a warning. Because Hannah was in the middle of the desert and out of radio range, he did not bother calling in the car's license plate to his dispatcher. Nor had an APB on the sportscar in connection with Dana's disappearance been tendered earlier that night, authorities being initially skeptical of Dana's rather scruffy looking boyfriend, thinking at most they were dealing with a runaway."

"Two weeks later Dana Lull's body was found in an abandoned cinnabar mine shaft 125 miles away. She had been shot once through the head with a .22 long jacket bullet (similar in make and model to bullets favored by the Zodiac)."

"On the night of the abduction an anonymous caller had rung up Dana's parents to tell them, "Your daughter is dead.""

"[...] Kane's physical description matched the Dana Lull suspect down to the black driving gloves that, according to Hines's investigation, the nattily dressed Kane had taken to wearing. [...] Checking with DMV records Hines located the man who had bought the car from Kane in December 1974. [...] The new purchaser, a car dealer acquaintance of Kane's, recalled a bumper sticker of some kind, but could not remember what it said. The man, however, related that Kane was a lover of tropical fish and had a number of aquariums in his apartment."

"Tom Hannah, the retired Nye County Sheriff's Deputy who stopped the suspect in the Dana Lull killing on the lonely desert road at night, contended that he would remember the suspect if he ever saw him again. A photo line-up of six 3x7 photos sent to Hannah yields an exciting development. Hannah selects Kane out of the line-up, proclaiming, "I have no doubt this is the man I stopped. It's his eyes and eyebrows, I could never forget them. I'd stake my life on the fact that he's the guy."

"Also precipitated by the seemingly endless stream of phone calls is a "tentative" ID by Roy Tophigh, Dana Lull's boyfriend who witnessed her abduction. Tophigh, who is sent the same photo line-up as Hannah, misreads the corresponding numbers on the backs of the photos. He selects a number other than Kane, at which point I indicate our actual suspect, and Tophigh cuts in, "That's the one I meant. I was reading the wrong number.""

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(Benton Harbor News Palladium. 05/08/1974.)



The San Bernardino County Sun. May 16, 1974:



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Post by ophion1031 on December 18th 2016, 8:10 pm

WOW!!! Thanks for posting. This has to be Kane, and further strengthens my suspicion that Donna Lass' body was also thrown into a mine shaft.
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Post by WelshChappie on December 20th 2016, 7:37 am

You've done it again G, never seen that article before nor the photograph of Dana.

I personally think there isn't much doubt that Kane is responsible for Dana's abduction and murder. I even remember a few people over on Tom's site years ago saying they do believe Kane probably killed Dana, but refused to believe He was The Zodiac.

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Post by WelshChappie on December 20th 2016, 10:31 am

I get many people emailing me regarding Kane, and yesterday I received the following:

"Hello WelshChapie, My Name is ***** and I am a paralegal and notary public in Central Florida. I've been reading your excellent work on suspect Larry Klein/Kaye/Kane/Cane and the Hines Report.
Iv've never seen a more compelling suspect in the Zodiac Case."

The sender then asks a few questions and end with:

"Do you know of any efforts to get a DNA sample from Kane's body in Nevada?"

I am going to have to reply that the answer is no and, sadly, there won't likely be any as He was cremated.

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Post by Galaxie500 on December 20th 2016, 5:52 pm

WelshChappie wrote:You've done it again G, never seen that article before nor the photograph of Dana.


I appreciate it, Welsh. Here's another one...



(Hayward Daily Review. 05/03/1974.)

Suspect was also described as having short, curly dark hair and a round face. Age estimated at mid-30's to 40's (erroneously stated in some articles as 25-40). Approximately 5'9. Neatly attired.


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Post by Metal Years on December 21st 2016, 12:41 am

I've seen somewhere, I think ZK, where some time later, Mr Tophigh waz at a bar and saw a man he believed to be the perp. Roy called the po-po (or tried to) but the guy left before LE arrived.
http://www.zodiackiller.com/KH8.html

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Post by Galaxie500 on December 21st 2016, 8:56 am

Metal Years wrote:I've seen somewhere, I think ZK, where some time later, Mr Tophigh waz at a bar and saw a man he believed to be the perp. Roy called the po-po (or tried to) but the guy left before LE arrived.
http://www.zodiackiller.com/KH8.html

Yep. Here's the condensed version taken from WelshChappie's site:

"The description of Dana’s abductor given by Tophigh, matches Lawrence Kane.  A month after Lull’s abduction, Tophigh reported to police that he had seen her abductor in The Spring Inn Nightclub, but he had fled before police arrived. According to Alan Dorfman, Kane’s former employer, Kane frequented The Spring Inn Night Club In Las Vegas."
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Post by Galaxie500 on December 21st 2016, 11:03 pm

Galaxie500 wrote:
WelshChappie wrote:You've done it again G, never seen that article before nor the photograph of Dana.


I appreciate it, Welsh. Here's another one...



(Hayward Daily Review. 05/03/1974.)

Suspect was also described as having short, curly dark hair and a round face. Age estimated at mid-30's to 40's (erroneously stated in some articles as 25-40). Approximately 5'9. Neatly attired.



(Santa Ana Register. 05/17/1974.)



(The Elwood Call-Leader. ".)



(The Los Angeles Times. 05/16/1974.)


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Post by ophion1031 on December 24th 2016, 7:59 pm

Even the wardrobe describe sounds just like Kane. I always thought he would be a guy that wore driving gloves.
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Post by WelshChappie on December 25th 2016, 11:57 am

You know, this event here and the motive of abducting the female at gun point has always made me wonder if this was the assailants motive at LHR but Betty ran after seeing David shot.

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Post by Galaxie500 on December 26th 2016, 11:16 pm

WelshChappie wrote:You know, this event here and the motive of abducting the female at gun point has always made me wonder if this was the assailants motive at LHR but Betty ran after seeing David shot.

Abduction aside, the similarities in M.O. are actually pretty intriguing. I also find it interesting that the kidnapper "called to Tophigh to return"; it makes me wonder if the abduction wasn't a "plan B" of sorts.
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Post by Rocketman on December 26th 2016, 11:35 pm

Didn't see this thread until now. This has to be Kane. I mean, yeah it might not be, but I think it was. It's just too perfect to not be him right?
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Post by JohnFester on December 27th 2016, 8:04 pm

Rocketman wrote:Didn't see this thread until now. This has to be Kane. I mean, yeah it might not be, but I think it was. It's just too perfect to not be him right?

Right. It sure does seem that way.
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Post by Galaxie500 on January 2nd 2017, 4:22 pm

Galaxie500 wrote:
WelshChappie wrote:You've done it again G, never seen that article before nor the photograph of Dana.


I appreciate it, Welsh. Here's another one...



(Hayward Daily Review. 05/03/1974.)

Suspect was also described as having short, curly dark hair and a round face. Age estimated at mid-30's to 40's (erroneously stated in some articles as 25-40). Approximately 5'9. Neatly attired.

Addendum to the above - Tophigh further stated that the suspect had a small mustache and wore 'dark' (not sure if this refers to the tint, rims, etc.) glasses. Articles from the Las Vegas Review-Journal purportedly feature a slightly different variation of this description, but I'm afraid that I haven't had an opportunity to review them.


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Post by ophion1031 on January 2nd 2017, 8:04 pm

Kane wore dark glasses didn't he? I could see him rocking a tiny mustache, like a "pencil line mustache" or whatever that is called.
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Post by Galaxie500 on January 2nd 2017, 9:09 pm

ophion1031 wrote:Kane wore dark glasses didn't he? I could see him rocking a tiny mustache, like a "pencil line mustache" or whatever that is called.

He did wear dark-rimmed glasses, yes, and he did - on occasion at least - sport a mustache:



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Post by ophion1031 on January 3rd 2017, 1:36 am

Galaxie500 wrote:
ophion1031 wrote:Kane wore dark glasses didn't he? I could see him rocking a tiny mustache, like a "pencil line mustache" or whatever that is called.

He did wear dark-rimmed glasses, yes, and he did - on occasion at least - sport a mustache:




Ah, yeah, I forgot about that photo.
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Post by Galaxie500 on January 3rd 2017, 7:15 am

WelshChappie wrote:You've done it again G, never seen that article before nor the photograph of Dana.

I personally think there isn't much doubt that Kane is responsible for Dana's abduction and murder. I even remember a few people over on Tom's site years ago saying they do believe Kane probably killed Dana, but refused to believe He was The Zodiac.

I would be inclined to agree. The confluence of circumstances in this particular case - from the description of the perpetrator's car to the subsequent witness identifications - matches Kane to a T, irrespective of his suspect status in the Zodiac killings. With that having been said, there do exist parallels (however tenuous) between this case and the Z case -

- The attack occurred on a remote lovers lane.

- As in the Blue Rock Springs attack, the perpetrator positioned his car behind that of the victims so as to diminish the possibility of escape. (I would imagine this is common operating procedure, however.)

- Victims were ordered from their vehicle at gunpoint, as was speculated to have occurred in the Lake Herman Road killings.

- Suspect left his headlights on during the initial confrontation. (Blue Rock Springs)

- Suspect demanded the keys to Tophigh's car. (Lake Berryessa)

- Weapon was a .22-caliber semi-automatic pistol, as in the Lake Herman Road case.

-  Long rifle ammunition, as with LHR.

- No indication that the victim was robbed or sexually assaulted.

- The victim's parents received a phone call from the perpetrator on the night of her abduction, informing them of her death. (parallels w/ phone calls placed to police in BRS and LB attacks.)

- Happened on a weekend.

(It should also be noted that this was two days before Kane's 50th birthday.)


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Post by Galaxie500 on January 13th 2017, 2:37 pm

Galaxie500 wrote:
WelshChappie wrote:You've done it again G, never seen that article before nor the photograph of Dana.

I personally think there isn't much doubt that Kane is responsible for Dana's abduction and murder. I even remember a few people over on Tom's site years ago saying they do believe Kane probably killed Dana, but refused to believe He was The Zodiac.

I would be inclined to agree. The confluence of circumstances in this particular case - from the description of the perpetrator's car to the subsequent witness identifications - matches Kane to a T, irrespective of his suspect status in the Zodiac killings. With that having been said, there do exist parallels (however tenuous) between this case and the Z case -

- The attack occurred on a remote lovers lane.

- As in the Blue Rock Springs attack, the perpetrator positioned his car behind that of the victims so as to diminish the possibility of escape. (I would imagine this is common operating procedure, however.)

- Victims were ordered from their vehicle at gunpoint, as was speculated to have occurred in the Lake Herman Road killings.

- Suspect left his headlights on during the initial confrontation. (Blue Rock Springs)

- Suspect demanded the keys to Tophigh's car. (Lake Berryessa)

- Weapon was a .22-caliber semi-automatic pistol, as in the Lake Herman Road case.

-  Long rifle ammunition, as with LHR.

- No indication that the victim was robbed or sexually assaulted.

- The victim's parents received a phone call from the perpetrator on the night of her abduction, informing them of her death.

- Happened on a weekend.

(It should also be noted that this was two days before Kane's 50th birthday.)

neglected to add:

- Subject approached the victim's vehicle on passenger side. (BRS)


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Post by ophion1031 on January 14th 2017, 8:30 pm

I wonder if any police ever looked into this as a possible Zodiac crime.
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Post by ophion1031 on January 28th 2017, 11:06 pm

WANDA GAIL LOE DISAPPEARANCE 7/27/68 posted by Richard Grinnell on his site, zodiacciphers.com

Another possible Kane victim???

The Pines Card, often questioned on its authorship, was mailed to the San Francisco Chronicle on March 22nd 1971. Was this a Zodiac correspondence offering subtle hints to the disappearance of Donna Lass (25) from the Sahara Tahoe Hotel and Casino on September 6th 1970. If we traveled the 'lake tahoe areas' on the western shore of Lake Tahoe, we would arrive at Donna Pass and the Donner Memorial State Park on its northern edge, by Truckee, California. Could this be the final resting place of Donna Lass, buried 'in the snow.'
Two years earlier Wanda Gail Loe (26), similar in age to Donna Lass, disappeared from the Lake Tahoe region on July 27th 1968, five months prior to the Lake Herman Road murders. She worked at the Sunnyside Resort 1850 West Lake Boulevard in Placer County. The resort is 30 miles northwest of the Sahara Tahoe Hotel, now the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino, where Donna Lass was last seen.
​Her boyfriend Dennis Finn allegedly made a drunken confession to the crime, according to his cousin, however ill feeling between the pair has cast huge doubt on his claims, and no evidence exists linking Dennis Finn to the crime. Later arrested and jailed for an unrelated crime, he committed suicide in 1992.
Were the disappearances of Donna Lass and Wanda Loe connected in any way, and if so, how relevant is the Zodiac Killer or Pines Card to either investigation.
The disappearances were two years apart, their ages were similar and they worked on the fringes of Lake Tahoe, only 30 miles apart. An officer involved in the Wanda Loe case, Sergeant Perea, believed she may be buried in the Carpenter Valley area, near Truckee. Carpenter Valley Road is a mere four miles from Donner Lake and Donner Pass Road.
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Post by Richard Grinell on January 29th 2017, 3:23 am

The following is not meant to indicate any Zodiac connection, but its locality in relation to the Donna Lass case is worthy of mention.  
Approximately eleven years after the disappearance of Donna Lass, on January 12th 1982, two young women, Julie Schossow (25) and Marilyn Putt (27),  disappeared from South Lake Tahoe. Their bodies were recovered several months later.
​On June 6th 1982 Marilyn Putt's body was found in the South Fork of the American River, one mile west of Chili Bar. The police press release stated “Her body had been weighted down with chains and binding material and the cause of death appears to be ligature strangulation, with the time of death being estimated at six to eight weeks prior to her body being found.” Julie Schossow was discovered only a short distance away on July 9th 1982. The women had been bound and strangled with a ligature. Both victims worked as blackjack dealers at Harrah's Lake Tahoe Casino and were last seen leaving the Rendevouz Bar at Harrah's around midnight. This casino is only 359 meters from the Sahara Tahoe Hotel and Casino, where Donna Lass had worked in 1970. Reports circled about a possible interaction with some men, indicating that the women may have traveled with them to the Bay Area, although this is unsubstantiated.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO5PxH6rFeE
​http://www.tahoedailytribune.com/news/information-sought-in-1982-south-lake-tahoe-killings/
​http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?309900-CA-Julie-Schossow-25-amp-Marilyn-Putt-27-S-Lake-Tahoe-12-Jan-1982
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Post by ophion1031 on January 29th 2017, 8:03 pm

Wow, a lot more of this type of thing going on in Kane's back yard than I realized.

Thanks for posting that info, Richard. I wish we could determine weather or not these women were victim of the same man or not, even if it turned out to not be Kane.
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Post by Galaxie500 on January 30th 2017, 12:27 pm

Richard Grinell wrote:The following is not meant to indicate any Zodiac connection, but its locality in relation to the Donna Lass case is worthy of mention.  
Approximately eleven years after the disappearance of Donna Lass, on January 12th 1982, two young women, Julie Schossow (25) and Marilyn Putt (27),  disappeared from South Lake Tahoe. Their bodies were recovered several months later.
​On June 6th 1982 Marilyn Putt's body was found in the South Fork of the American River, one mile west of Chili Bar. The police press release stated “Her body had been weighted down with chains and binding material and the cause of death appears to be ligature strangulation, with the time of death being estimated at six to eight weeks prior to her body being found.” Julie Schossow was discovered only a short distance away on July 9th 1982. The women had been bound and strangled with a ligature. Both victims worked as blackjack dealers at Harrah's Lake Tahoe Casino and were last seen leaving the Rendevouz Bar at Harrah's around midnight. This casino is only 359 meters from the Sahara Tahoe Hotel and Casino, where Donna Lass had worked in 1970. Reports circled about a possible interaction with some men, indicating that the women may have traveled with them to the Bay Area, although this is unsubstantiated.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO5PxH6rFeE
​http://www.tahoedailytribune.com/news/information-sought-in-1982-south-lake-tahoe-killings/
​http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?309900-CA-Julie-Schossow-25-amp-Marilyn-Putt-27-S-Lake-Tahoe-12-Jan-1982





"SOUTH LAKE TAHOE, Calif. -- On July 24, 1977, 27-year-old Brynn Rainey stopped by a bar near the Nevada casino where she worked - just over the state line from her home in South Lake Tahoe in northern California. She was early for her 2 a.m. graveyard shift.

Brynn was a regular at the pub, and the bartender noticed her there that evening. It was the last time anyone would see her alive.

Her body was found the next month, buried in a shallow grave in a popular South Lake Tahoe horse riding area. Her killer remains unknown."


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-push-to-solve-calif-womans-1977-cold-case-murder/

"August 1977 Homicide in South Lake Tahoe

Last seen at a small pub near her work, the Bittercreek Salon.  She worked as a Keno girl at Nevada's Sahara Casino.  Her body was discovered buried in a shallow grave in a popular South Lake Tahoe horse riding area."


https://www.edcgov.us/ELDODA/Cold_Case_Files/Brynn_Rainey_Homicide.aspx



"EL DORADO COUNTY, Calif. -- Investigators are making a new push to solve the murder of a Nevada teen found slain in South Lake Tahoe, Calif., in 1979, as a part of a video campaign highlighting cold cases.

Carol Andersen was going into her junior year at George Whittell High School in Zephyr Cove, Nev., the summer she was killed, near the state's border with northern California. Her sister Deanna Andersen told 48 Hours Crimesider the sixteen-year-old suffered from epilepsy, and their mother rarely let her leave home by herself. But on June 30, 1979, Deanna Andersen said Carol left to go to a party, though their mother had asked her not to go.

"She never came home," Deanna Andersen told Crimesider.

El Dorado County investigators believe that on the night of her death, Carol hung out with friends at Regan's Beach on the banks of Lake Tahoe, before catching a ride to the party on Regina Road, near the Heavenly Mountain Ski Resort (note: this would be about a six minute drive from Harrah's). Later in the evening, several people offered her a ride home, but she turned them down, according to the El Dorado County District Attorney's Office.

Investigators say she left the party around 11:30 that night, but it's not clear whether she left on foot or got a ride. What happened next remains a mystery. Just a few hours later, in the early morning hours of July 1, 1979, Carol was discovered dead along the side of the road about four miles away. Investigators say she had been strangled."


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-push-to-solve-teens-1979-cold-case-murder/
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Post by Richard Grinell on January 30th 2017, 2:57 pm

Snap, just wrote an article on Brynn Rainey
http://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/brynn-rainey-sahara-casino-worker-murdered-in-1977
Thanks for the other story. Seems like a lot of murders.
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