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Post by MandaSkunk March 7th 2016, 10:59 pm

Ophion had posted somewhere on this site about a story he read about Hartnell that made him seem like a very dishonest person. He is a lawyer afterall. Well here is a story from a few years ago that is kind of messed up.

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/07/questions-arise-as-to-coroners-cover-up.html
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Post by ophion1031 March 8th 2016, 7:59 pm

I can't find the link again, but it was something talking about some lawyers, including Hartnell, possibly ripping off some money or something along those lines. I think it was something about old people being scammed but I can't remember exactly.
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Post by ophion1031 March 9th 2016, 2:38 am

Found that link... https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/01/22/18474145.php

I didn't re-read it yet though. I will probably do that tomorrow night and see what the article was about again.
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Post by Don Pseuym March 9th 2016, 7:20 am

I called his office yrs ago ,wanting to tell him I thought a wallet and keys I found in the vinyl satchel I found in 06( yeah I know the report states nothing was taken,). A  young man answered seemed a bit effeminate  ,he asked what it was concerning I said I found items taken from him on 9/27/69 ,I heard  maybe Brian groan ,I was put to the voice mail.

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Post by ophion1031 March 9th 2016, 8:26 pm

That's pretty weird. I wish Hartnell would comment and that and see what he has to say.
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Post by sandy betts April 2nd 2016, 9:11 pm

When the costume was put in my car Sept. 1969 a girls watch was also left. I thought that it could have been Cecelia's ? So I wrote to Bryan and asked him if he remembered if Cecelia had on a watch that day? He never responded. Back then everyone had a watch, especially a student. I read the evidence report and there wasn't any mention of a watch. He is a bit of a scum bag , because he had a girl friend that I think he was engaged to in OR., where he was from, yet he made love to Cecelia that day at Lake B. She loved Bryan, he took advantage of her and didn't mention that he had someone in OR waiting for him.

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Post by ophion1031 April 4th 2016, 3:17 am

sandy betts wrote:When the costume was put in my car Sept. 1969 a girls watch was also left. I thought that it could have been Cecelia's ? So I wrote to Bryan and asked him if he remembered if Cecelia had on a watch that day? He never responded. Back then everyone had a watch, especially a student. I read the evidence report and there wasn't any mention of a watch. He is a bit of a scum bag , because he had a girl friend that I think he was engaged to in OR., where he was from, yet he made love to Cecelia that day at Lake B. She loved Bryan, he took advantage of her and didn't mention that he had someone in OR waiting for him.

And then he became a scum bag lawyer!! Wasn't there part of a necklace or something that was left in your car that had Cecilia's name on it? I coulda swore I read that on another site, but I could be mistaken.
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Post by sandy betts April 4th 2016, 7:45 am

Yes I did have a red plastic heart with the name Cecelia on it and a love poem on the back in Spanish. It is unclear to me if that red heart was with the costume or not ? I thought it was, but can't say for sure. Things were left for me over the years, to try and convince me that he was in fact the Zodiac. I pretended to not believe him, so he would keep sending me more proof. It worked for a while, but then I think that he saw my posts at Zkiller.com and found out that I knew who he was. The last letter I received from him, was the one where he gave me a clue to two more victims. One I had already felt he was responsible for, she was 14 yr old Jenny Lynn from Castro Valley Ca.in 1994, the other girl I had never heard of, until my friend Lyndon Lafferty wrote his book. That victim was Deana Hooper, murdered in Vallejo 1974.He wrote it in what looked like blood, but it wasn't blood, it was the color of blood. He drew himself with the two victims. He included his hair in a crew cut( I never saw him with a crew cut that I can remember?)He drew his lazy eye which most people don't know about , but DOJ knows. The only person who could have seen a lazy eye would have to be Kathleen John's ? Hartnell couldn't have seen it , Zodiac hid his eyes with the sun glasses over his regular glasses.

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Post by Rocketman April 5th 2016, 4:58 pm

ALL lawyers are scum IMO.
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Post by sandy betts April 6th 2016, 9:23 am

I don't know about all of them , but the ones at the top of my list were the dream team at the OJ trial. How could they sleep at night knowing they got a cold blooded killer off? Did you know that he cut out and removed the implants he bought for Nichole? That to me was very telling. Not many people know about that, it wasn't in any reports. ( Sorry, I am off topic )

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Post by ophion1031 April 20th 2016, 2:49 am

I have a good friend that I grew up with who became a lawyer, and he is a damn good one. But I remember him as the long-haired metalhead that I would smoke pot and get drunk with when I was a teenager haha.

As far as the OJ trial goes, I guess it it true that money can buy you out of anything! I had no idea he cut out his wife's implants, what a psychopath. I wonder if he ummm did stuff with them afterwards. Ewwww!!!
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Post by Phillips66 April 26th 2016, 9:10 pm

I always found those old interviews with Brian to be strange. He was so unemotional about the attack. It just seemed odd.
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Post by DJgamer April 27th 2016, 12:37 am

Phillips66 wrote:I always found those old interviews with Brian to be strange.  He was so unemotional about the attack.  It just seemed odd.

I think he was pretty doped up. Also, I think certain people took advantage of that and started filling his mind with nonsense.
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Post by Phillips66 April 28th 2016, 8:09 am

Sure that's possible, but even in his later interview in 2007 he was just strangely unemotional. Not saying I think he was involved or anything just that he always struck me as odd. I guess that sort of horrifying experience might make you a little odd though.
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Post by Don Pseuym April 28th 2016, 9:53 am

if you look at him in the Bill anderson talking to mulanex scene Hartnel behind anderson at a desk playing a detective ,he seems to have a almost devious laughing smirk ,I 'm surprised fincher didn't want a better take , but maybe he was suppost to be taking calls from crazys too

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Post by sandy betts April 29th 2016, 10:56 pm

Ophion, I read your link about Hartnell and noticed that it was thought that the Lake Berryessa stabbing was not thought to be done by Zodiac ? That is news to me, although I do believe that he was not the same killer seen at the Stine shooting.

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Post by ophion1031 April 30th 2016, 9:38 pm

sandy betts wrote:Ophion, I read your link about Hartnell and noticed that it was thought that the Lake Berryessa stabbing was not thought to be done by Zodiac ? That is news to me, although I do believe that he was not the same killer seen at the Stine shooting.

I think that as well. I kinda think it started out as one killer and one person writing the letters, and then the letter writer wanted to "get in on the action" and may have been the one who shot Stine. I do think that the letter writer/partner was too scared to commit murder at first and was content just being the "partner," but he ended up killing several people later on. I think this was the Santa Rosa murderer. And for the record, I think that was Fred Manalli. But that is just an opinion, not a fact, of course.
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Post by ophion1031 April 30th 2016, 9:39 pm

I don't know why, but Hartnell has always seemed like a phony to me. Is it because he is a lawyer? Maybe, I have no idea. But I think there is something a little off about him.
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Post by Don Pseuym May 1st 2016, 9:40 am

It's more than just the lawyers , most ploice officers have a former prosecutor as an attorney on retainer payed for by the department .
did you see the Prime time episode about the reserve officer that claimed he misstakenly fired his real gun killing the black man that was just walking away ,at another scene a man was already in handcoughs on the ground and a video captured this same reserve ,older white man start to take out his gun when another officer told him to stop this means they already knew his intent was to shoot him murder him ,this was pryer to the killing , and no charges are filed against the reserve officer

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Post by ophion1031 May 4th 2016, 12:25 am

Don Pseuym wrote:It's more than just the lawyers , most ploice officers have a former prosecutor as an attorney on retainer payed for by the department .
did you see the Prime time  episode about the reserve officer that claimed he misstakenly fired his real gun killing the black man that was just walking away  ,at another scene a man was already in handcoughs on the ground and a video captured this same reserve ,older  white man  start to take out his gun when another officer told him to stop this means they already knew his intent was to shoot him murder him  ,this was pryer to the killing , and no charges are filed against the reserve officer    

I didn't see that... But I should read more into it and situations similar, since I come from the land of cops shooting people.
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Post by Sick E. Von Brutal May 8th 2016, 9:31 pm

Rocketman wrote:ALL lawyers are scum IMO.

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