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Post by ophion1031 November 26th 2016, 9:21 pm

But getting back to JFK..... next week there is a new movie coming out called Jackie. Natalie Portman will be playing Jackie Kennedy. I think she is the perfect person to play that role.
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Post by WelshChappie November 28th 2016, 7:01 am

This speech by JFK always inspires Me when I hear it, and it is the speech that many believe got Him killed. JFK said, 53 years ago:

"And there is a very grave danger, that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand it meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit, to the extent that it is in My control."

And He was right. Look what's happening today in the Post 9/11 World. Increased security supposedly for our benefit at the cost of our rights and freedoms.

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Post by WelshChappie November 28th 2016, 7:12 am

Rocketman wrote:The general public loved JFK for the most part, but there were plenty of folks with a motive. JFK wanting to pull out of Vietnam would have cost the US 'wamongers' billions of dollars, like you mentioned. JFK's brother fired Allen Dulles so there's his motive. Same thing with J. Edna Hoover. Like you said.

It's my opinion that yes, the mob and CIA worked together to get this job done.

An opinion RocketMan that I absolutely concur and agree with you on.
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Post by Rocketman November 29th 2016, 11:35 am

WelshChappie wrote:This speech by JFK always inspires Me when I hear it, and it is the speech that many believe got Him killed. JFK said, 53 years ago:

"And there is a very grave danger, that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand it meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit, to the extent that it is in My control."

And He was right. Look what's happening today in the Post 9/11 World. Increased security supposedly for our benefit at the cost of our rights and freedoms.


JFK knew of the new world order and was against it. Add in the fact that companies would have list millions if JFK had successfully pulled the troops out of Nam and the mob's hatred of the Kennedy brothers and it all comes together.
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Post by Metal Years December 4th 2016, 12:09 am

I think they look enough alike that they could conceivably have been written by the same person. They look more alike than later (1969+) "confirmed" Z communications.

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Post by Metal Years December 4th 2016, 12:21 am

JFK, like Z, waz just a little before my time. From what I've read about him, he waz a good President and an admirable person (JFK, not ALA). BUT since President Johnson kept pretty much all of JFK's crew in place, I'm not 1000% convinced JFK wouldn't have gotten America balls deep in Viet Nam just like LBJ did.

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Post by WelshChappie December 5th 2016, 7:17 am

Well I saw one anti-JFK interviewee talking about Kennedy's alleged numerous affairs with women. This may be true,, I don't know. I don't admire JFK because of His personal life and what He did in it, but rather, His professional life as President and the things He did/tried to do in that role.

I am absolutely convincsed that We would live in a different World today if the Mob, in association with the CIA, Hadn't voted Kennedy out of Office with Bullets.
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Post by ophion1031 December 5th 2016, 8:09 pm

I have no problem with JFK sleeping around, although his wife was quite attractive. He was the best president we have ever had, but certain people stood to lose a lot of money with JFK as president so they decided he had to go. It's a damn shame.

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Post by WelshChappie December 16th 2016, 10:38 pm

The New World Order desires a One World Government. They make no secret of this. It reminde me of a leaked document from a bilderburg group meeting where it stated the agenda is to install one world Government over many years by gradually taking away sovereignty of nations, making the countries of Europe Into one big Country of Europe rather than many countries on a Continent.

The fact that the Elite can't and won't seem to accept British Public voted to leave Europe and have called for a second vote ever since, that makes sense if they want One World G,'ment.

One Government is the absolute end of freedom because in WWII, Britain Russia, America and France combined militarily to stop Hitler and His Nazis. Imagine a similar regime coming to power and no Opposing powers or Governments existing to fight it?

Death of Free World as we know it, Hello unchallengeable Tyrany!
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Post by ophion1031 December 17th 2016, 8:11 pm

WelshChappie wrote:The New World Order desires a One World Government. They make no secret of this. It reminde me of a leaked document from a bilderburg group meeting where it stated the agenda is to install one world Government over many years by gradually taking away sovereignty of nations, making the countries of Europe Into one big Country of Europe rather than many countries on a Continent.

The fact that the Elite can't and won't seem to accept British Public voted to leave Europe and have called for a second vote ever since, that makes sense if they want One World G,'ment.

One Government is the absolute end of freedom because in WWII, Britain Russia, America and France combined militarily to stop Hitler and His Nazis. Imagine a similar regime coming to power and no Opposing powers or Governments existing to fight it?

Death of Free World as we know it, Hello unchallengeable Tyrany!

More people seem to be aware of the NWO nowadays and that is great. Now the question is... what are people going to do about it? When the bully pushes you too far you can curl up in a ball like a pussy or you can fight back!
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Post by WelshChappie December 21st 2016, 6:12 am

I do believe Alex Jones is extremely amusing with His use of Sarcastic Humour and piss taking. My Name's Sake does address the crowd on the procedure one must follow, and conduct shown in respect of the New World Order!

Ladies & Gentlemen, thank you for all you have done here today! It is now time to kneel before the royal Globalists and thank them..." Before ending with the highly amusing: "If you wish to be in a centralised, fascist state, utalizing socialism at the grass roots in order to control and domesticate the population.... Then you have come to he right place! Buna hahahha"

The Royal Amusement begins at 1:13


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Post by ophion1031 December 21st 2016, 8:54 pm

I think the interwebs have kinda helped people realize what is going on in the world. It makes it harder for the globalists to have complete control anymore. Their downfall is inevitable! We the people have the numbers and when you push someone too far they are going to fight back.

I'm planning on writing a screenplay one of these days, about an underground group of people... called We the People... that conquer the new world order.
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Post by follow the clews February 19th 2017, 1:46 am

I watched a movie the other day where the main character was given a bunch of gov't secrets, the truth about the JFK assassination being one of them, as well as the truth about the Roswell UFO crash. At or towards the end of the movie he asked a friend or wife or girlfriend (I forget now) if they would like to know who really killed JFK. I can't think of what movie it was now and that is bothering me. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

edit: I think it was The Rock with Nic Cage, maybe. I watched that recently. That is the only thing on my Netflix account that I watched recently that I think it could be. I guess it doesn't matter all that much, I was just trying to remember what movie it was from.
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Post by Sick E. Von Brutal April 2nd 2017, 9:02 pm

here is a good one


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Post by ophion1031 April 22nd 2017, 10:11 pm

This documentary series is really good and I always recommend that people watch it...

























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Post by WelshChappie April 30th 2017, 11:25 am

I sometimes wonder what type of World we'd live in today had they not removed President Kennedy from Office via assassins bullets? He had signed an order declaring that He is withdrawing US troops from Vietnam. The day after being sworn in, LBJ signed His own executive order over-ruling JFK's whereby He commits tens of thousand more to the war effort.

JFK Vowed to completely smash and dismantle the agency He declared was a Rouge, dangerous one that doesn't answer to anyone,that being The C.I.A and He also did warn, quote:

"And there is a VERY REAL danger, that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those who wish to expand it's meaning to the very limits of official censorship. That I do not intend to permit, to the extent that it is in My Control."

JFK's words, His prophetic words uttered in the early 1960's have never had such meaningful relevance as they do in today's, post 9/11, World in which We live.

JFK was and is a Man that was far from perfect especially in His personal life, but as US President, America lost their last real President who was no puppet for the power elite, and He wasn't shy about letting them know that either. Enter Texas and an open top drive down (of all streets... Nightmare on) Elm Street and a lone nut case with a rifle in the Texas School Book Depository who was so good He shot Jack on the right front temple while firing from the rear of the President's Vehicle!

Warren (Co)mission, headed up by the very man who JFK cut down from the summit of the Central Intelligence Agency, and probably the only man on the planet you could ask to head up the investigation into the assassination and almost ensure that the outcome, like the investigation, will be totally bias because of the obvious conflict of interest!

"Is there an elephant in the room over there only I. . ."

"I'll get you my little pretty! It's unwise to ask such a thing so stop! Stop now, before somebody drops a house on you, too!"
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Post by ophion1031 April 30th 2017, 9:07 pm

The U.S. and probably the entire world would definitely be different if JFK hadn't been taken out. But that's what happens when you stand between rich people and their money. That's what happens when you try to destroy greedy rotten people who have no boundaries. LBJ may not have been directly behind the assassination, but he knew it was going to happen and he supported it. The war was bringing in millions of dollars for certain groups and they damn sure weren't going to let that end.

Fuck LBJ! Fuck J. Edgar Hoover (what a fag!). Fuck Allen Dulles! Fuck the entire Warren Commission, actually. Fuck Jack Ruby!
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Post by WelshChappie May 1st 2017, 1:51 am

ophion1031 wrote:The U.S. and probably the entire world would definitely be different if JFK hadn't been taken out. But that's what happens when you stand between rich people and their money. That's what happens when you try to destroy greedy rotten people who have no boundaries. LBJ may not have been directly behind the assassination, but he knew it was going to happen and he supported it. The war was bringing in millions of dollars for certain groups and they damn sure weren't going to let that end.

Fuck LBJ! Fuck J. Edgar Hoover (what a fag!). Fuck Allen Dulles! Fuck the entire Warren Commission, actually. Fuck Jack Ruby!

Well the war making such wonderful Monetary profits at the cost of so Many thousands of American Lives, as well as Vietnamese, is more than a fair exchange to the Psychopathic among us.

But this again is what another former US President just in Office immediately prior to both JFK & LBJ,  Dwight D. Eisenhower, strongly warned in His farewell address when He stated:

"We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military–industrial complex."

He went on to also say: "The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist ... Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."
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Post by ophion1031 May 1st 2017, 3:59 am

Exactly. These people would kill their own mothers if there was a profit in it. It's sad because JFK was going to change things for the better but he didn't get that chance. Same thing with his brother. Every president since JFK has not dared to cross these evil fucks because they knew what would happen to them. A lot of presidents since then have been "puppets" for these people who want to control everything.
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Post by WelshChappie May 1st 2017, 4:53 am

ophion1031 wrote:Exactly. These people would kill their own mothers if there was a profit in it. It's sad because JFK was going to change things for the better but he didn't get that chance. Same thing with his brother. Every president since JFK has not dared to cross these evil fucks because they knew what would happen to them. A lot of presidents since then have been "puppets" for these people who want to control everything.

Well it was discovered shortly after JFK was assassinated and LBJ took the oath of office that LBJ's Executive Order that over-rode JFK's and committed many more troops to, rather than withdrawing them from, Vietnam was actually written up for LBJ to sign as The President's executive order over-ruling Kennedys on November 21, 1963.

They know this because, simply, the date of creation is on the Order itself. So, somebody within this administration or certainly Government is writing up Orders to overrule JFK's the day before JFK is assassinated. Now that isn't a smoking gun, It's on F'ing Fire! You can't innocently explain that away via any means!

"Ohh yeah, umm it appears that the order writer had paid a visit to a Psychic Palm Reader fortune teller ermmm, thing! That Psychic thing with palm fortunes whatever said He, She...it, it said it envisioned JFK being dead by the 22nd."
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Post by WelshChappie May 1st 2017, 5:28 am

Did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone? Yes, He wrote up Official Orders for Lyndon Johnson to sign the day before He, the lone gunman and all round whack-job, acted alone and shot JFK.

Must have been a stealthy little shit to sneak into the WhiteHouse unobserved, get on the official typewriter to type up "Executive Order No 187 post Homicide...."

I mean with hindsight it just so clear what they did in setting Lee Oswald up for the fall as a patsy.  Lee 'defects' to The Soviet Union and resides there for a while, obviously planting the seed that He's a Soviet Loving US Defector, just the  type one may suspect be motivated to take out the US President during the Cold War era. The US Deserter, Him that defected to Russia asked His former Country and Government if He could come back cause He had changed His mind  about defecting to The Soviet Union and the American Government said. . . "Absolutely Mr Oswald, We would love You to come back to The States where We welcome all Traitors, spies and defecting Citizens back with open arms!"

Ha,yeah right! But Oswald, He was green lighted to defect to Russia, change His mind and determine He didn't like Russia, asked The US can He please come back and they rolled out the red carpet and were so proud He came back that they went out of their own way to get Lee employment in Texas Book Depository! Isn't that lovely of the Government, I mean let nobody say these are not the most thoughtful and lovely people!

Oswald it seemed caught on to their set up which is probably why He left that building and headed straight for the crowded theatre to lose Himself in the midst of the crowd. Yet, magically it seems, someone is said to have alerted cops that a man had not paid His entrance fee at the ticket booth. Considering the President has moments ago been shot in the head, the police resources are limited. But, Once again, most odd set of circumstances follow as Eighty Seven Thousand Police Car respond and descend on the crime of the century ticket booth skipper! Twenty eight thousand helicopter and seal team Six ab-sailing down the exterior building  and The CIA, FBI, NSA, DOJ, DOD & then A Partridge in a pair tree Special Agents surround the Building.

I am surprised the CIA didn't have a plant waiting for Lee to be escorted out from His ticket jumping offence and start raving: "OHHH MAY THE GOOD LORD HELP US IT'S THE RUSSIAN DEFECTING ONE THAT SUPPORTED THAT 'FAIR PLAY FOR CUBA' MOVEMENT! YES, OHHH YEEE,OH YEEAA IT'S A US DEFECTING LOVER OF THE SOVIET UNION THAT SUPPORTS DESPOT DICTATING FIDEL CASTRO!" Then, in the Grand Finale to bring the over the top dramatics to a climax the Agent ask loudly "WHY? OHH PLEASE WHY? THE PRESIDENT, WHY....." . . . . **Pause for effect then** clutch His chest...."URRGHHH, WOOAHHH...HUUUREEE, ARRRGGHH (Acting dramatically and...) *THUMP* and 1.3 second later a Priest appears from nowhere giving the sign of the cross with His hand... "In the Name of the Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit, He's dead and uhhhh, Amen etc!!" Massive 'Heart Attack' suffered, placed on gurney with one eye open saying through side of mouth: How am I doowin, am I conwincin as cworpse?"

Arrives at ER, sits up and announces He has recovered now and feels better. Kills Ambulance driver, drives off into obscurity with 'MWAAAHHHHHAHAHAHA!' And He lived happily ever after at Bohemian Grove telling Molec His big Owl friend about His CIA Missions!
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Post by WelshChappie May 1st 2017, 7:19 am

Eisenhower basically gave a warning that JFK would echo, just wording it differently. Eisenhower said:

"The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist ... Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

Kennedy warned against the exact thing but worded it sightly differently:

"And there is a very grave danger, than an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those who wish to expand it's meaning to the very limits of official censorship. That, I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is within My control."

Eisenhower acknowledged that A balance is needed in State Security and the Citizens Rights and Freedoms. 'Security and Liberty can prosper together' He said, to have an ability to co exist with the other and not exchange one in place of another, resist giving up this freedom to get that security. It's the 'Robbing Peter to Pay Paul' scenario.

The final and conclusive statement made on this subject of Security vs Freedoms was absolutely spot on and it's a warning to remember and take as most serious:

"Those who will give up their own rights and freedoms in exchange for Security will deserve and get neither."
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Post by Sick E. Von Brutal May 1st 2017, 8:29 pm

I don't think Oswald even shot a gun that day. just my opinion but he was the perfect patsy and whoever picked him probably did so at least a year in advance
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Post by WelshChappie May 1st 2017, 11:45 pm

Eric X wrote:I don't think Oswald even shot a gun that day. just my opinion but he was the perfect patsy and whoever picked him probably did so at least a year in advance

No I too don't think He shot one round that day either. The Undertaker has declared on camera in several interviews that when He had possession of Lee's body just prior to burial, Two men came there with a long case that couldn't be anything other than that used to carry a rifle and told The Undertaker they had business to attend to and that they would be required by The Undertaker to take them to Lee's body. The U'tker naturally asked for what reason and was told never mind, matter of National Security, here is our ID badges.

(Undertaker noted Two first names, but their Surname obscured, followed by 'Central Intelligence Agency.')

The Undertaker then showed the Two Agents to Lee's resting place and He was told "You have not seen this, We were never here, Understand?" The Undertaker nodded "Whatever You say, Gentlemen." Then watched as they unzipper the case and one held the rifle while the other took hold of Oswalds deceased Hand and made sure His finger tips were made contact with the barrel and butt, along with the trigger before zipping it back in the case & leaving. The U'tker said the very next day He saw on the news 'FBI find Oswalds finger prints on murder weapon!'
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Post by WelshChappie May 2nd 2017, 12:23 am

It's comical in one sense cause the Government (or certainly agencies thereof) seem to want to cover up a crime committed against it's very self that they, they claim, had nothing to do with whatsoever.

That would be like My most loyal friend who is Chief of Police getting shot and assassinated and Me, a Sgt. under Him who has no knowledge of. certainly no complicity in, the crime itself and yet I am seemingly doing everything I can to frame a certain Person for the crime because I.. . . Well I don't know why I, or anyone in such a position, would do that.

Now if I were involved in the conspiracy or plot to kill the Chief, then I doing such things as evidence tampering to frame someone else as the guilty party, well then that would not only make sense now, it would even be expected of Me to do such things in order that suspicion falls at The feet of the Fall Guy, The Mark or The Patsy.

My conclusion which is simply also personal opinion on who would be powerful enough to send assassins to take out the President of The United States, in broad daylight when He's surrounded by Dallas police cars, motorcycles & Secret Service? My answer. . . Nobody. Not one faction or group on it's own, Anyway!

The CIA in conjunction with American Mafia, and probable elements from other G'mnt Agencies too knew also. I think Oswald may have known the assassination attempt was going to take place there that day, He did have links to the CIA as an asset not agent Himself and that is said to be why He fled directly for the Cinema/Theatre post shooting because it's alleged His Handlers had told Him to meet them there.

Lee did what He was ordered only to find that the Handlers were not there, He's been set up and in literal minutes of Him entering that building, the Cops had it surrounded and the FBI & CIA seemed to know that the assassin of The President was in there somehow, not just a man who's not paid at the ticket desk who also somehow, by someone, was given the status of the murderer of Officer Tibbit, too!

If Lee knew of the details of the Assassination or directly involved in it's planning (So He believed but was actually being set up) then He would have known all to well what was coming next. They can't risk framing a man who has knowledge of the true actual plot of conspirators because He ain't staying silent for very long!

"I'M JUST A PATSY!!"

That's as far as He got in revealing the truth and conspirators that were behind The plot & rifles. He is starting to talk, He must be silenced! Where's Mr Ruby???
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